Piggy-poo 发表于 2009-7-9 20:19

Talking about Tolerance, anyone wants to discuss about the riot in Xinjiang?

Just a thought.....

Not really following the news recently, but I have heard about the tensions and on-and-off riots in Urmqi, from my friends and families there.

Any Wigger here? I guess most are Han. Quite interested in how you think.

山区人民爱照相 发表于 2009-7-9 20:27

learn to think of things in the shoes of other rather than of politicians. Anyway I am strongly against Violence and Chauvinism.

Piggy-poo 发表于 2009-7-9 20:32

i am against that too. but i don't even know how to start with this discussion.....

historically?

Piggy-poo 发表于 2009-7-9 20:34

the politician are good at covering up, so i am basically wondering among all the sources.........

Piggy-poo 发表于 2009-7-9 20:39

Would be really nice if someone could explain a tiny bit of what's going on and what caused it this time~{:5_383:}

冉闵 发表于 2009-7-9 20:43

If the tongue could not disentangle the knot, let the teeth have a try!

Piggy-poo 发表于 2009-7-9 20:46

weird~~~{:5_339:}

山区人民爱照相 发表于 2009-7-10 01:13

Would be really nice if someone could explain a tiny bit of what's going on and what caused it this time~{:5_383:}
Piggy-poo 发表于 2009-7-9 20:39 http://www.dolc.de/forum/images/common/back.gif

watch CCTV, and think of them reversely.
regard rumor as truth and denial as confirmation

SHUIJIN 发表于 2009-7-10 15:11

One of my friends wrote on his blog:
No matter for what reason and who they are,
When a man started to kill,
he lost his humanity.

冉闵 发表于 2009-7-10 15:34

本帖最后由 冉闵 于 2009-7-10 15:58 编辑

One of my friends wrote on his blog:
No matter for what reason and who they are,
When a man started to kill,
he lost his humanity.
SHUIJIN 发表于 2009-7-10 15:11 http://www.dolc.de/forum/images/common/back.gif

So if one try to protect the innocent and kill the busters, he or she is also brutal!

Then the people who fought against NAZI were also evils!

Piggy-poo 发表于 2009-7-10 16:41

God also kills~{:3_260:}

老太爷2008 发表于 2009-7-10 21:11

God also kills~{:3_260:}
Piggy-poo 发表于 2009-7-10 16:41 http://www.dolc.de/forum/images/common/back.gif

God is not Human Being!

{:3_259:}

SHUIJIN 发表于 2009-7-10 21:49

本帖最后由 SHUIJIN 于 2009-7-10 21:53 编辑

I cry over that photo about the dead body of a little girl. I cry for her, a young life not yet livethrough love but die in horror. Will I be less sadden ifthe killer was HAN and she wasn't ? Not a chance.

SHUIJIN 发表于 2009-7-10 21:52

本帖最后由 SHUIJIN 于 2009-7-10 22:07 编辑

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老太爷2008 发表于 2009-7-10 22:00

本帖最后由 老太爷2008 于 2009-7-10 22:01 编辑

I cry over that photo about the dead body of a little girl. I cry for her, a young life not yet livethrough love but die in horror. Will I be less sadden ifthe killer was HAN and she isn't ? Not a ...
SHUIJIN 发表于 2009-7-10 21:52 http://www.dolc.de/forum/images/common/back.gif

Give me a reason to suspect Han ppl to execute a Racial Massacre!

morpheus13 发表于 2009-7-10 22:18

no words but anger

newer 发表于 2009-7-12 11:07

1# Piggy-poo

you wanna discuss it, then you take a look on it and first get your own opintion or Question, no one could do that for you. of course given that your intelligent person.

daydayup009 发表于 2009-7-12 11:28

Two mistakes in the title:

1, This is a terrorist attack, not a RIOT, confirmed by the way the Hans were killed. Trained killers waged a well planned massscre. How many people were killed in several hours? 150! not 10 or 15, imagine how can you kill such a lot of people who are free to run around in one hour without a plan.

2, Tolerance. There is and will be no tolerance for the terrorism, whether it diguises as a rebellion or a counter-balance.

Beside, the US is the de facto spensor of Kadeer. No question about it. If you want to know the truth, ask the conservatives in the White House.

newer 发表于 2009-7-12 11:30

8# 山区人民爱照相


what a ridiculous suggestion. since when rumor should be regarded as truth?

use your brain, try to see in abird's-eye view.

baikai 发表于 2009-7-12 16:26

Remember, all human beings are equal,none was born as a terorist. Every baby was the same and innocent.

Thus the questions are why and how some people run to the opposit side of the society, how they lost their humanity.

Both Uygurs and Hans are suffering the social pressure of fast developing economy. Peasants, especially those uneducated were pushed the society margin. For Uygurs, situation is worsened by language obstacles. Han peasants can still get chance to work as "Nong Min Gong".

In such a situation, Uygurs turned to be fertile soil of terrorism. They are muslims, have close border to Afganstan, Pakistan. It is no doubt torrorism occours, sooner or later.

newer 发表于 2009-7-12 20:50

20# baikai

towards your first point, i would say yes in technical aspect. theoritically this equality is not an undoubtable concept. but its so deeply confusing thati would like to drop this question.
what i am wondering is the connection you suggested about muslims and uighur terrorists. what did you mean with "They are muslims, have close border to Afganstan, Pakistan. It is no doubt torrorism occours, sooner or later."it is dangerous to identify muslims with terrorists. plus, being close to those unstable country is not a necessary condition for terrorism.
btw seems there is contradiction in your own statements.

baikai 发表于 2009-7-12 23:29

21# newer

The point is, we should compare Uygurs and Hans' behaviors in the similar situation.

Facing life difficulies, everyone will automatically think about solutions, they want hope for future. Hans make efforts to get job as "NongMinGong" in big cities. But Uygurs, everyone knows what they are doing in cities. Their reputation were already destroyed.

I am not defining muslims as terrorists, but Uygurs share the same religion with neighbors, who are recently uder anti-terrorrist war. Thus uygurs are more likely to be influenced.
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